do you remember what goku said about him being to scared to fight super buu even with ssj3? Gogeta (SSJ) seen stronger than Vegito (SSJ) based on their fights, but numerous comments put Vegito on advantage, although the word "stronger" was never mentioned. QueenSaiyajin. There's no evidence to support this. Even in the time limit of 30 minutes. And he would master them. The main point being, at this point Janemba is as strong as FAT buu and Goku is a little stronger than FAT buu. Note: I did not make this. Vegito is a mixture of both Goku and Vegeta's characteristics, with a few deviations. there is no proof of whom is stronger, however vegito would win because gogeta can only last 30 mins (less if ssj4).220.127.116.11 00:10, October 5, 2011 (UTC), the point is with potara rings does the power increase. Gogeta is more like Goku Vegito is more like Vegeta I like Goku more than Vegeta But yet, I like Vegito is more like Vegeta. Second vegito has a higher power level than gogeta Third vegeto would out last gogeta in fusion time. but even gohan can one shot freeza.. lol SO almost hands down Vegito would be the winner. vegeto actually had to struggle a bit to break buuhans shout technique. By the same logic, for example, Goten and Trunks (base form) were around 2,1 millions each; which is almost the power level of Goku when he fought Freeza (3 millions). ss1 Vegeto is much higher, lets make it say 600x ss3 goku (a little over x2). That leads me to believe that super vegito was aroud the power of a super saiyan 4. And it is stupid, the power gap between Gogeta and Vegito would be HUGE, we are talking about Freeza vs. Omega Shenron here, SSJ vs. SSJ4! Also, Vegito and Gogeta are playful only to enemies that are much weaker than them. But WAIT! Super Saiyan Gogeta is much more serious than Super Saiyan Vegito. Its the same damn people . This is because there is base form gogeta then vegta and goku fusioning in a ssj form) is up. ", Vegito's fusion doesn't end. We all know Cell had jack shit once Gohan kicked the girl outta him, yet he used his power to potentially blow the planet up, and would have succeeded to had Goku not done what he did. While Vegito gains all the power of both Goku and Vegeta. Gogeta would get straight to the point and finish off Vegito while he was messing around. That means the base fusion is stronger than the max power levels of each person. Really we can speculate as much as we want about which character did what and what moves may give the edge an this an that, but in the end there won't ever be a battle between the two (sweet if there was) and lets just agree that both are kick ass fusion warriors that possibly cannot be beaten. Hence why Old Supreme Kai looks much more like a Kai than a witch, and why Kaioshin looks much more like the Supreme Kai. Even if they are the same in base form, both fusion techniques add max power levels. So this means they are doing simple math like 10+10. So that means Base Goku is 4000. Look at the post above this one. Gogeta ssj4 is stronger than vegito but the fact that the potara is permanent allows vegito to train and he can be stronger than gogeta in a short period of time while gogeta is strong for only 15 min because of the dance fusion. That was just me stating something about whatever Old Kai said. 5) Yet again, we're talking about after they fuse correctly, not if they fuse correctly. Sure, the villian of the movie may or may not be as powerful as Buu, but he sure is more than a match for one super saiyan. Giving Vegito a pretty fair advantage over Gogeta. I don't even know what to say. In a battle lets assume again that these two agreed to fight. Gogeta Blue who is already good, just gets a lot better. why did they use gogeta. Before I explain, these are the stipulations/assumptions I am making (read lest you be a fool): Very simply, if my fellow DBZ acolytes will recall, the fusion dance requires both beings to be at an equal power level. Copyright 2020 ComicBook.com. EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinions, unless their opinion states false information, in which case just correct them. vegeto ss1 fights buu and plays around but is definately a match for buu. Power levels are only made to be broke and confuse your opponents. If that wasn't enough, Gogeta was able to overpower Broly by powering up to Super Saiyan Blue. As this Dragon Ball fusion breakdown reveals, there is a pretty clear separation of powers between the Fusion Dance that creates Gogeta, and the Potara earrings that create Vegito: The Fusion … There is no restriction to using your earrings more than once, because Elder Kai already used his earrings to fuse with the old witch that snatched them away. the dance lacks such a boost, Yeah that was one of the stupidest arguments ever. Now let's assume we're testing this in GT (although why Vegeta would allow the permanent fusion to happen again is beyond me): 1. What makes you think Super Saiyan 4 is different? So I thought why don't we just have a voting session, accept the outcome and shutup about this subject. 4. you can clearly see that Vegito appears to be a tad stronger minimally and does not posess the same 30 min weakness. veigto wins because of it. I'm just givin' mah two cents. But DBGT was just too shit for me to put it into consideration. Vegeta, on other hand, was around 30 millions. I don't view them as THAT far apart. OPINIONS (Including Mine) Also Not No Contest! And we know that JP is currently on the Majin Buu arc, so they will eventually release a transforming base form Vegito card in the future. PrinceVegeta6623:32, July 28, 2012 (UTC). X10 Kaio KenLogan 21:43, November 5, 2011 (UTC), Gogeta is a hell of lot faster being able to punch faster than we can see.He also has the stardust breaker which disitigrated Janemba. It's unfair to add Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta into this because he would obviously win, and it's also unfair to say Vegito has the ability to go Super Saiyan 3 cause its not mentioned in DBZ. Normal fusion = adding the power levels together and they have to be balanced therefore the most powerful fighter would have to power down (plus there's the time limit), Potara fusion = multiplying the power levels together and they don't have to be the same before the fusion meaning no worries about powering down (and the obvious lack of time limit). and was at least as powerful in base as he was as an ssj prerosat. There is no evidence to assume that Vegito, "The best lie is the one that is tightly wrapped around a grain of truth.". I agree with that, therefore they will be equally matched in terms of speed, strength, and power. most of gogeta's moves, such as the stardust breaker, are avoidable. Shakuran13 01:55, August 8, 2011 (UTC), IMO the only reason Gogeta killed Janemba so fast is to finish off the movie to fit into a 1 hour time slot. That doesn't mean the potara fusion creates a stronger fusion than the fusion dance. nowhere does it ever establish goku or vegeta have more control over fusions when fusions birth an entirely new being, "To start off gogeta can't just turn super sayian 4 unless both goku and vegeta start off in ss4 that's the only way gogeta can become super sayian 4." I actually think that is the other way around. He SEEMS to have more power and he can fight longer than 30 minutes. They're both formed from the same people, so explain to me how one would be able to trump the other? While he screwed things up when taking on Omega Shenron, he was able to kill Janemba with the power of his Soul Breaker technique. We're saying that if the fusion dance is performed correctly, then, will he be stronger or weaker than Vegito? PrinceVegeta6621:04, August 24, 2012 (UTC), ^And where's your proof that Gogeta doesn't get the same boost? no it doesnt becase post goten and post trunks stand absolutely no chance vs ssj3 goku. New Dragon Ball Special Finally Pits Vegito vs Gogeta. Secondly, we're pretty much not including the time limit here because that's not a true test of strength; that's wait half an hour for him to defuse. To the guy above. As for what Old Kai said, he meant the duration of the two different fusing methods and as for the rival boost, how do you know that Gogeta also doesn't get a rival boost? That guy pointed his finger and Kakarot fell down! HD wallpapers and background images So, Goku at Super Saiyan 4 can probably compete with Super Vegito and they are in the same league.But, Gogeta in Super Saiyan 1 form (while fighting super janemba) is much stronger than Goku SSJ4. Gogeta (base form) will be around 65 millions (using my calculations), right? Goku (which will be around 35 millions) on SSJ2 (*50*2) was by himself stronger than Gogeta SSJ (3,5 bi). Potara fusion is different with the Kais, and we have no evidence to suggest what the difference, if there is any, is between the respective power levels of Supreme Kai and Kibito. Vegovegito . So, automatically, Vegetto>Gogeta. SO long story short. But WAIT! No playing and no holding back, the winner would get braggin rights(which makes vegeta's half go hard) and lifetime supply of food(which makes gokus half try his hardest too) . But Gogeta wins. you should. In GT if Vegito came he would be equal to Gogeta, except for the fact that after 30 minutes. So just because both fusions invovle the same people does not mean it will end the same. You have to go on what's said directly, and the time limit only matters in a fight between the two, but not on deciding who's strictly stronger or more powerful. no where does he say its stronger or that it gives him a "Boost in Strength." When he transforms into a Super Saiyan, he looks almost exactly like Goku. When the two sunjects being fused become one in mind, body, and spirit, they can become the ultimate warrior! Gogeta fuses and powers up to max. But WAIT! Not only that but Vegito has Blutz Wave and could turn SSJ4 also if Gogeta did. SO Vegito may be a little stronger minimally, but is almost safe to say they would be the same power level. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 22:46, August 24, 2012 (UTC). Obsessed Fan. That would make the entire fight meaningless. ss1 vegeto is far above buuhan by an unknown margin. Gogeta is a lot more similar to Vegeta than with Goku. 2) Yet the anime and manga suggest otherwise. Gogeta wins...Vegito will definitely lose if they never split up...CHI-CHI AND BULMA WOULD HATE THEM FOR CHEATING ON EACH OTHER! the strongest villian in dragonball Z. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. But WAIT! Once again, Gogeta is a Fusion Dance product. Since Gotenks went SSJ3 with to normal SSJ as his make-up. he would have infinite time to master ss3, where gogeta would have to try and do it in 30 minute intervals, because he cant go back in the hyperbolic time chamber. As far as which fusion is stronger potara or dance neither is, they are both equal. There is no evidence to assume that Vegito can't go past SSJ1, just that he didn't. He said that Potara was better, due to not having to do the dance. Then Vegeta and Gokus training in GT. Vegito kind've proves that lol. As it stands Vegeta and Goku as single fighters … Even though I think Gogeta is a lot more calculated and serious (which is my personal preference in a character, and why I think he's cooler), he will sadly lose to a battle against Vegito, and I will explain why. the TV show is extremely close to the original manga thank you very much......18.104.22.168 00:44, January 15, 2013 (UTC)Whitecap. Because of his time limit he is more determend to win with Vegeta`s pride and both their strength even though their power level disadvantage. Holy kami!!!!!!! I mean, in the anime we got to see Vegito have to put up a fight in his base form against GohanBuu, but when he went SSJ it was basically a cakewalk. Comparing Goku from the Saiyan Saga to the Goku now is much more of a difference. plus vegetto gets stronger because goku and vegeta are rivals. Virtually that goes the same for janemba. I mean, just look at both. 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